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| Kblo247 | Jan 17 2013, 01:54 AM Post #91 |
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They aren't responsible for any of Buu? Any of the androids? Or any of Frieza? Or Pilaf? Buu was caused because Babadi exploited the weak mind and corrupt intentions of two humans. These humans being Yamu and Spoovich who stole energy from Gohan who masqueraded as Saiyaman. Where did they steal this energy? At a tourney meant to make money and entertain them by guys not practice true martial arts, but a sports entertainment ripoff. Why was he Saiyaman? Because earths champion who denounced his, his fathers, Vegeta, the demon school, Kame house, and crane way of fighting as magic belittled their accomplishment and made people have a false belief that they didnt need to take care of themselves, they didnt protect themselves from even common criminals as they expected a teen girl to do it,, and because their hero the Champ Satan would save them ..... Vegetas point in a nut shell, those idiots took no responsibility in even basic self defense let alone the real way of ki fighting because they expected satan to just do it for them Point - Vegeta The androids were created by Gero. Gero was a member of the Red Ribbon Army. This army practiced tyranny and exploited the weak. They were around well before Goku was introduced to society by Bulma. They were allowed to be corrupt. They were allowed to kill, exploit, and create androids for destruction. The government and their citizens did nothing, just took it, till Goku came and stopped them. Yes he screwed up not killing Gero, but if the humans would have took him out or imprisoned him themselves he wouldn't have never gotten as far as he did. He would have never created 20 androids, kidnapped a young brother and sister and experimented on them, or been able to steal DNA for Cell to be made. The people and their government did nothing, but wait for someone to step up to the RR Army .... Goku did and afterwards they just went on with life not learning to protect themselves Point - Vegeta Frieza exploited weak planets with his PTO. They killed the weak, purged planets, and sold them or blew them up. Vegeta grew up in the same lifestyle, he was isolated from his people, from his family, but he didnt let them break him. He got stronger, he plotted, and killed off every general, sergeant, and lieutenant there was to the general on Frieza. He made it so Frieza had no men to go destroy worlds as he killed all his elite warriors from Nappa to Cui to Zarbon to Dadoria to Guldo to Jeice to Burter to Recome. His son came along and killed off the general and the great advisor in Frieza and Cold. The people weren't prepared and ready to face this threat after the Red Ribbon Army and King Piccolo because they didnt take the time to advance their fighting skills or self defenses after seeing they were no match for them. Hey didnt even try to make an elite fighting team and just ate up whatever Yajirobe said because they said oh here's some heroes to save us so we don't have to try to improve enough to protect ourselves Point - Vegeta Pilaf was the first tyrant we meet. A terrible emperor who went unchecked and ruled wrongly. They didnt step up to him, dint make him answer to anyone, and waited for a young 12 year old boy, 16 year old girl, former bandit, pig, and flying cat to do it. They didnt even try to get control of Pilaf after Goku destroyed his kingdom. That is why King Piccolo got released, and King Piccolo destroyed lives and went uncheck by anyone but Goku and company. They waited for this young boy, three eyed man, and old hermit to fight their battle for them. They didnt even prepare the,solves after and went on with life like nothing happened. They say the reincarnate of said Piccolo years later try to kill Goku, destroy the tourney ring, and did nothing but run away and act like it never happened. Once again they never tried to I,prove the,solves, never tried to defend the,selves, and relied on the hope that a hero or group of the, would protect the, like guardian angels Point - Vegeta Vegeta had a point. Kakarot, the Z team, and himself had enabled them for years. They had no accountability. They had plenty of chances to experience great evil and see the importance of learning self defense or preparing technology to defend themselves, yet ignored them or act like nothing happened until Goku Vegeta or one of the gang beat, killed, converted, or sacrificed themselves to stop said evil and then revive them with the magic balls and dragon people saw at Capsule Corp and just shrugged off as oh that's the Briefs for ya. Vegeta was right Edited by Kblo247, Jan 17 2013, 01:57 AM.
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| + Clearin | Jan 17 2013, 01:58 AM Post #92 |
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You can blame so many people for being indirectly responsible for Buu but the point is Vegeta is the person who actually released him by injuring Goku and thus giving the egg energy. |
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| Kblo247 | Jan 17 2013, 02:05 AM Post #93 |
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Shin doesn't let that energy get into that egg from Gohan, who he let power up to his max and then restrained, Buu isn't half full to start. Likewise all he to do was let Vegeta blow up the ship like he wanted to do from jump and they would have either faced no Buu or supremely weak Buu. Vegeta wanted to blow up the ship, release weak Buu, which actually would have been really weak as it was right around the time Gohans energy was being inserted, and then for himself/Kakarot/Gohan to kill him and Dabura and Babadi off so they could get on with their day and fight. Vegetas way was the simplest of them all actually and the smartest in hindsight He was dumb, yes, but his fight was with Kakarot. He had waited 7 years for him to return to that world, they planned for the day in advanced, and all. Shin interrupted their engagement because he couldn't do his job of stopping Babadi, Bibidi, finding the egg, or scouting earth to see exactly how strong Vegeta, Goku, and company were. If shin would have simply stopped the wizards and secured the egg to the furthest reaches of the universe they would be better off. If he would have scouted to see how strong the Z team actually were he could have offered them Z sword training. If he would have detailed Buus abilities, people wouldn't be absorbed or eaten, same with turned to stone by Dabura. If he would have scouted, him and Kibito certainly wouldnt have let them take all of Gohans ssj2 power and feed into that egg freely. Shin botched that up for centuries before Vegeta ever came into a picture, much like earthlings allowed themselves to be exploited, killed off, and ruled by tyranny long before Goku came to play monkey tailed knight and champion Edited by Kblo247, Jan 17 2013, 02:08 AM.
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| EMIYA | Jan 17 2013, 02:57 PM Post #94 |
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"I am the bone of my sword."
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You mean how like the Saiyans got exploited, killed off and ruled by a tyrant? lol No matter how you look at it, Vegeta screwed up royally. He fu*ked up, he's the one who needs to fix it, not tell someone else to do his job because he's complete incompotent. The humans did nothing, nothing at all to deserve anything that got thrown at them. It is not their responsibility to fix Vegeta or anyone else's mistakes. Vegeta's plan was stupid (Not once in Canon has the Genki-Dama ever worked before, it never even crippled an opponent.) It takes too much time to complete, there were others much better plans at the ready, Goku at the right mind, bring Gohan over, why waste time with an attack that has never worked once before? He wants to show how the humans can defend themselves, he can do it later, but don't tell me that Vegeta who is pretty much indirectly responsible for everything that happened, has the righ tto say "You humans must take responsbility." They did take responsibility in fact.. "Hey Mr. Satan, help us out!" Mr. Satan is an incredibly powerful man to them, they sent him to beat Buu and by jolly he did. Mr. Satan defeated and befriended Buu, saved the entire world right there. Had two gunmen not screwed everything up, the entire world would've been saved, far more than I can say for Vegeta that's for sure. And heck, Kaioshin at least tried to help. He made some huge mistakes and was a dumb sh*t for sure, but at least he had good intentions. Far more than I can say for Vegeta who has this one sided blood feud with Goku because oh dear, Goku beat up his pride. And it doesn't help that Vegeta's reason for this is not only incredibly stupid, but it's made worse that he's done it before. It's like the guy can't learn from his mistakes or something. It's been seven years sice he's last had his dose of "Crackarot" he needs his high and 500G rehab just ain't doing it for him. Spoiler: click to toggle Edited by EMIYA, Jan 17 2013, 03:13 PM.
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